A woman living in Newport Beach, CA got her $168,000 HELOC from Citibank
shrunk down to a paltry $10,000. She feels like she's been robbed; after all, it's
her money!:
“Remember that credit is money.” – Benjamin Franklin
I’ve always considered my primary residence to be one of my most solid investments. So it came as a surprise yesterday when we got the letter from Citibank about our $168,000 line of credit: We have determined that home values in your area, including your home value, have significantly declined. As a result of this decline, your home’s value no longer supports the current credit limit for your home equity line of credit. Therefore, we are reducing the credit limit for your home equity line of credit, effective March 18, 2008, to $10,000. Our reduction of your credit limit is authorized by your line of credit agreement, federal law and regulatory guidelines.
Reduced to $10,000!? Hello!? Please don’t f-ck with my house in Newport Beach…
Of course, I’m calling them today to dispute it. Why? Because unlike the Phoenix property, I believe I can prove our home has retained its value and hasn’t declined. We have a Newport Beach address but live in what I’d describe as the low rent district of the city. It’s on the cusp of Eastside Costa Mesa and I believe the lender is using comps from Costa Mesa for comparison.
One reason why we bought in Newport is because we believed that property values would retain their value over time. After all, how many of you have heard of Costa Mesa? But most people have heard of Newport Beach. It’s considered desirable. People want the Newport Beach address. As real estate declines, it will decline more quickly in Costa Mesa. And it is.
But Newport hasn’t declined with any significance and if we compare current comps in our zip code, we can prove to the lender that our home has retained its value. Or so that’s my plan. I’m going to fight this one and I’ll write a follow up post about my success or failure with regards to the dispute.
This is my response:
First of all, despite what Benjamin Franklin has to say, credit is NOT money! Money is money! Credit can be converted to money, but it's not money until it is converted.
Second, we are in the middle of a credit crisis. There was an enormous, world-wide credit bubble. The bubble has burst. This means that credit will dry up and includes precious, unused HELOCs.
Third, the credit bubble led to inflated prices. This was especially true in real estate. I don't know enough about Newport Beach, but after looking some listings on Redfin, I found a couple that are selling for LESS than they were purchased just a few years ago:
311 32nd ST
Newport Beach, CA 92663
Last Sale: $1,270,000 (06/23/2005)
Asking Price: $879,000
209 38th
Newport Beach, CA 92663
Last Sale: $999,000 (11/03/2006)
Asking Price: $959,000
2227 Cliff DR
Newport Beach, CA 92663
Last Sale: $4,996,000 (11/30/2007)
Asking Price: $4,695,000
Many others are asking for basically the same price they were purchased for just a few years ago. That equals basically 0% appreciation.
According to Yahoo foreclosures, there are 113 listings for Newport Beach. More evidence of a housing bubble gone bad.
It's insane to suggest Newport Beach is immune from the housing bubble. Citbank probably did the right thing by shrinking your HELOC. Your house is no doubt worth less than it was.
Sorry to burst your bubble, so to speak...
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via Mish